【08.09.01 盐湖论坛报】西藏：西方想象中的香格里拉
【原文标题】Tibet: The Shangri-La that exists only in the West's imagination【中文标题】西藏：只存在于西方想象中的香格里拉
【登载媒体】The Salt Lake Tribune 盐湖论坛报
【来源地址】[url=http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_10359098]http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_10359098[/url]
【译者】rlsrls08
【声明】译文版权归AC所有，谢绝转载
【翻译方式】个人原创翻译
【原文】
[size=4][b]Tibet: The Shangri-La that exists only in the West's imagination[/b][/size]
By Kevin Deluca
Article Last Updated: 09/01/2008 11:33:21 PM MDT
With the Olympics over, I hope the Western sport of bashing China over Tibet might stop.
Working in Beijing during the Tibet riots and the preparations for the Olympics gave me a unique perspective. Growing up with Western media and Hollywood, I am used to our embrace of the Dalai Lama.
Being in China, I saw the Chinese point of view.
Seeing both sides suggests the need to abandon simplistic political stances in favor of some self-reflection and historical context.
Although we should criticize China's censored media, the Tibet riots revealed some troubling blindness among our own media. While the causes of Tibetan unrest are complex, it is clear that the March riots were started by Tibetan protesters and that they were quite violent. Indeed, they were violent enough to lead the Dalai Lama to threaten resignation if his followers did not stop the violence.
Since "violent Tibetan" does not fit our stereotype, our media fixed the news. While Chinese media showed extensive footage of violence and interviews with Chinese and Tibetan victims, Western media manipulated images and even showed footage from other countries (Nepal and India) in order to paint a picture of ruthless oppression by China's government.
Chinese media exposed the Western media manipulations, forcing the BBC, N-TV and RTL-TV to apologize. Not surprisingly, the American media has yet to acknowledge its bending of the truth. The point is that while the Chinese know their media is censored and do not trust it, we believe our news is objective and end up being righteous while misinformed.
If we had seen the violence of the Tibet riots, our condemnations may be more nuanced. Quite simply, no government, democratic or not, allows such violence within its own borders. Providing peace and stability, even by force if necessary, is what governments do.
Large and powerful countries tend to have regions that were not always part of the country. In America, we proudly call it Manifest Destiny and never trouble ourselves with how we got much of California and Texas from Mexico, never mind the rest of the country and our sordid history with Native Americans.
On the Chinese flag there are five stars commonly interpreted as representing the five major ethnic groups in China. One of those stars represents Tibetans. China's claim to Tibet spans centuries and it is a claim that the United States and the rest of the world recognizes.
To Chinese people, removing one of those stars is akin to removing one of our states, such as Hawaii. Our history with the native people of Hawaii has been relatively brief and quite brutal and there exists a tenacious independence movement. Still, there is no talk in the mainstream media and among the Hollywood celebrity activist circuit of Hawaiian independence, not to mention Puerto Rican independence or the American Indian movement.
Government repression of these movements also escapes media scrutiny. Before we lecture China, we may want to tend to our own backyard.
Amid cries of "free Tibet" and calls for religious freedom, the question is what does freedom have to do with Tibet? Under the Dalai Lama, was there religious freedom? Was there any freedom? Actually, no.
We would recognize the Dalai Lama's Tibet as a medieval religious theocracy with a small elite class served by a large and oppressed serf population. The Dalai Lama ruled a region with no religious freedom, no political freedom, indeed, no human rights of any kind. The rulers were ruthless. Torture and mutilation were widespread. Poverty and starvation were rampant. It was Shangri-La only in the West's imagination.
Richard Gere, Sharon Stone and other Hollywood devotees may be surprised at their idol's current positions. The Dalai Lama condemns abortion and homosexuality while accepting prostitution. For decades the Dalai Lama secured millions of dollars from the CIA and runs his government in exile like a monarch.
Despite its shortcomings, Chinese rule has provided the Tibetan region with infrastructure and public schooling and provides Tibetans with widespread opportunities and a degree of personal freedom unheard of under the feudal theocracy of the dalai lamas.
China is far from perfect and deserves honest scrutiny and criticism. To expect China not to act like a large and powerful country, however, and to throw stones from our glass house, proves nothing but our own ignorance.
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* KEVIN DELUCA is an associate professor of communications at the University of Utah and author of "Image Politics."
[size=4][b]西藏：只存在于西方想象中的香格里拉[/b][/size]
作者: 凯文德卢卡 (Kevin Deluca)
2008年9月1日下午11时33分21秒
随着奥运会的结束，我希望西方就西藏问题猛攻中国的活动会停止。
西藏暴动，以及筹备奥运期间我在北京工作，这给了我一个独特的视角。从小受到西方媒体和好莱坞的影响，我习惯于接受达赖喇嘛。当我人在中国，我看到了中国人的观点。
我看到双方建议放弃简单的政治立场的需要，赞成自我反思和历史背景。
虽然我们应该批评中国的新闻审查，但西藏暴乱暴露出在我们自己的传播媒介的一些令人不安的盲目性。西藏动乱的原因是复杂的，显然，三月暴乱是由藏人示威者发动的，而且他们相当的暴力。事实上，他们的暴力之严重，以致达赖喇嘛威胁说，如果他的追随者不停止暴力，他就辞职。
由于“暴力西藏”不符合我们的模式，于是我们的媒体制造了新闻。当中国的媒体播放暴力画面，采访中国人和西藏的受害者，西方媒体为了描绘中国政府残酷压迫，不惜修改图片，甚至播放来自其他国家（尼泊尔和印度）的影片。
中国媒体暴露了西方媒体的窜改，迫使BBC，N-TV和RTL-TV道歉。毫不奇怪地，美国媒体至今仍未承认其歪曲事实。关键的一点是，虽然中国人知道他们的媒体受到审查，并不信任中国媒体，而我们相信我们的新闻是客观的和公正的，结果却发现是错误的。
如果我们看到了西藏动乱的暴行，我们的谴责可能会更为细致入微。很简单，没有政府会容许这种暴力行为在自己的国界内发生，无论这个政府是不是民主的。政府的工作是提供和平与稳定，甚至在需要时实行武力。
辽阔和强大的国家往往包括原来不属于自己的地区。在美国，我们骄傲地称之为"显然天命(Manifest Destiny，不知道怎么翻译，请大家纠正)"，自己却从来不觉得从墨西哥得到加利福尼亚州和得克萨斯州有什么不妥，也从来没有想过如何得到其余的国土，和我们与美国土著(印第安人)的龌龊的历史。
中国国旗的五颗星，普遍解释为代表中国的五大民族。其中一颗星代表藏族。中国统治西藏的历史跨越世纪，而且美国和世界其余地区承认中国对西藏的主权。
对中国人而言，去掉其中一颗星级等于去掉我们的一个州，如夏威夷。我们与夏威夷土著的历史短暂和相当残酷，而坚韧的独立运动一直存在着。然而，在主流媒体和好莱坞名人活动家当中从不谈及夏威夷独立，更遑论波多黎各独立或美洲印第安人运动。
(美国)政府对独立活动的镇压也未受到媒体监督。在我们教训中国之前，我们还是先管管自家后院吧。
在“自由西藏”和呼吁宗教自由的呼声中，问题是，什么是西藏的自由？在达赖喇嘛的统治下有宗教自由吗？有自由吗？事实上没有。
达赖喇嘛统治下的西藏可以说是一个中世纪的宗教神权，一小撮精英阶层享受广大受压迫的农奴的服务。西藏在达赖喇嘛的统治下没有宗教自由，没有政治自由，事实上，没有任何形式的人权的保证。统治者残酷无情。到处是酷刑和摧残。贫穷和饥饿猖獗。这就是西方的想象中的香格里拉。
理查德基尔，莎朗史东和其他好莱坞的信徒可能会惊讶于他们的偶像目前的立场。达赖喇嘛谴责堕胎和同性恋，而接受卖淫。几十年来，达赖喇嘛稳稳当当的从美国中央情报局得到数百万美元，像一个君主一样运行他的流亡政府。
尽管有其缺点，中国当局为西藏地区提供了基础设施和公共教育，并提供西藏人广泛的机会和一定程度的个人自由，而这些是达赖喇嘛统治下的封建神权闻所未闻的。
中国远非完美，应该受到诚实的审议和批评。但是，期望中国不象一个大国一样有所作为，并从我们的玻璃房子投掷石块，只不过证明了我们自己的无知。
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*凯文德卢卡是犹他州大学沟通副教授和“形象政治”一书的作者。
[[i] 本帖最后由 rlsrls08 于 2008-9-3 18:35 编辑 [/i]] 西藏不过是个幌子,瓦解中国才是本质! 难得有一篇跟我们中国人观点一致的新闻报道。尽管是发表在地方媒体而非全国性媒体上。然而，因为作者的观点不符合美国主流看法，大多数美国人留言抨击作者，甚至说他受到中共宣传机构的洗脑。只有少数几个支持他的。非常可悲。
"盐湖论坛报"是发行于美国犹他州盐湖城的日报，应该是当地最大的报纸。
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[[i] 本帖最后由 rlsrls08 于 2008-9-3 19:25 编辑 [/i]] 被洗脑多年要改过来实在是困难 相关帖子
[url]http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/cn/thread-96447-1-1.html[/url] 这些作者是诚实的 但可惜在美国好人是没市场的 写的很深刻，难得。 洗脑上百年了，改过来很难，民主自由的毒瘤根深蒂固。
不过这是一篇相对客观的文章，估计作者比较了解中国。 现在的问题是有人偏执的认为只有西方媒体才是客观的 "中国国旗的五颗星，普遍解释为代表中国的五大民族。其中一颗星代表藏族。"
乖乖，这位作者也可能是自封的“中国通”吧 看完以后蛮振奋的！ 至少有个人愿意把中国当自己的朋友，而不是酋长……可惜可贺 *** 作者被禁止或删除 内容自动屏蔽 *** 总算有个见过世面的教授了。 建议这里的朋友点击链接去看看这篇文章后边的评论，看了3页我就看不下去了，论坛里只有3个左右的中国人（从立场观点判断）在努力地和人数占绝对优势的西方NC们争辩，但遗憾的是他们的声音太微弱，策略方法也有欠缺，并没有针对某些NC的明显错误和根本不堪一击的观点进行一一对应地反驳。看到那么多的西方人都站在达赖的立场发表攻击中国的言论，都引用听信“流亡政府”的耸人听闻的假消息和对中国政府的污蔑，都一致认为中国是1949-1950年间野蛮“侵略”西藏，都认为中国政府在残酷对藏族人以及藏族文化进行种族灭绝，甚至一个NC西方人的说法更加的耸人听闻：中国政府几个星期前刚向西藏强行移民了一百多万的汉族。。。我由衷地感到悲哀 拿到手里的东西才是实在的东西，不管西方人怎么认为，西藏还是在中国的版图里。
没有必要太在意西方人的看法，他们也不过是吃饱喝足，茶余饭后的闲聊罢了，真要叫起板来也没有实质上的伤害。 [quote]原帖由 [i]yangs9[/i] 于 2008-9-3 18:35 发表 [url=http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/cn/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=1344401&ptid=96596][img]http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/cn/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
西藏不过是个幌子,瓦解中国才是本质! [/quote]
这就是他们的丑恶用心！Q29) 管他们呢，我们自己过得好就行了 “中国远非完美，应该受到诚实的审议和批评。但是，期望中国不象一个大国一样有所作为，并从我们的玻璃房子投掷石块，只不过证明了我们自己的无知。”
顶这句。 显然美国人比德法更容易“解放思想”啊 难得！Q20)
能够客观地正视历史和现实，并大胆的说出来！
说白了，大多的西方媒体并不是无知而是无耻，即使没有条件毁谤中国，也要创造条件毁谤中国！ [quote]原帖由 [i]千年明月[/i] 于 2008-9-3 22:19 发表 [url=http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/cn/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=1345334&ptid=96596][img]http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/cn/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
建议这里的朋友点击链接去看看这篇文章后边的评论，看了3页我就看不下去了，论坛里只有3个左右的中国人（从立场观点判断）在努力地和人数占绝对优势的西方NC们争辩，但遗憾的是他们的声音太微弱，策略方法也有欠缺，并没有针对某些NC的明显错误和根本不堪一击的观点进行一一对应地反驳。看到那么多的西方人都站在达赖的立场发表攻击中国的言论，都引用听信“流亡政府”的耸人听闻的假消息和对中国政府的污蔑，都一致认为中国是1949-1950年间野蛮“侵略”西藏，都认为中国政府在残酷对藏族人以及藏族文化进行种族灭绝，甚至一个NC西方人的说法更加的耸人听闻：中国政府几个星期前刚向西藏强行移民了一百多万的汉族。。。我由衷地感到悲哀这些
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这些攻击的言论包括耸人听闻的“中国政府几个星期前刚向西藏强行移民了一百多万的汉族”的欺骗言论，未尝不是西藏所谓流亡政府的枪手阿，还有哪些唯恐中国不乱的轮子们。而努力的反驳者虽然只有3个人，但是并没有掩盖住在这3人说的是真实啊。
对于您看到的欺骗，您不用感到悲哀，因为您知道并且坚持事实真相。。。而这在当前西方社会是需要勇气的。 后来来了几个雄登信徒一下子扭转了局面。突然觉得很悲哀，中国人(包括我自己)一个是用英语辩论处于劣势，一个缺少雄登信徒的坚持不懈的精神。
有意思阿有意思
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[[i] 本帖最后由 rlsrls08 于 2008-10-22 19:31 编辑 [/i]] 我晕
中国人都知道五角星的含有吧
大星代表中国共产党，四颗小五角星代表工人、农民、知识份子、士兵 [quote]原帖由 [i]Pal[/i] 于 2008-10-23 09:31 发表 [url=http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/cn/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=1540280&ptid=96596][img]http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/cn/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
我晕
中国人都知道五角星的含有吧
大星代表中国共产党，四颗小五角星代表工人、农民、知识份子、士兵 [/quote]其实他那样解释也无所谓。反正代表全国人民就行了。
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